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Alsip Man Dies in Motorcycle Crash

The single-vehicle crash happened near 147th and Oak Park Avenue late Saturday night.

Authorities have released the name of the driver killed in a motorcycle wreck near 147th and Oak Park Avenue Saturday night.

Matteo Manueli, 34, of Alsip, has been identified as the driver of the motorcycle, the Chicago Tribune reports.

The driver appeared to have lost control while driving at about 8:45 p.m., said Oak Forest Police Lt. John Koschnitzky. The roadway and weather were clear last night.

Koschnitzky said the victim wasn't wearing a helmet.

The driver was taken to Palos Community Hospital. Police were at the scene of the crash until early Sunday morning.

Personnel from the Cook County Sheriff's Office and Oak Forest's Police and Fire departments were at the crash.

The South Suburban Major Accident Reconstruction Team is investigating the crash. It is not known if alcohol was a factor.

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dp November 11, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Yes, it is more dangerous there now than before.
Tammy Burke November 11, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Terrible...this guy was a great man. Will be so missed and so many broken hearts
Sue1 November 11, 2012 at 08:48 PM
I also agree. Maybe they need to rethink this.
Baba Wawa November 11, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Do any of you remember the *horrendous* traffic in the afternoon when there were stop signs there? Westbound traffic on 147th Street approaching the 3-way intersection was backed up to Ridgeland during rush hour. It was awful for all three directions. To say it's worse with stoplights is ridiculous. It's 100 times better with stop lights. There are signs there indicating there is a curve. If you don't slow down when approaching a curve, well, then you're reckless. It's careless driving and not obeying the speed limit.
Karyn Retzbach November 12, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Agree with everyone!! I lived here my entire life and it never had the amount of accidents it does now since the stop lights were put in. Put back the stop signs and save some lives.
Darcy Cesario November 12, 2012 at 01:35 AM
He truly was a nice guy that lot of people loved. RIP
xxxjohnnybxxx November 12, 2012 at 03:22 AM
Matt was a great guy .Truley a tragedy .I"ve had the honor of working with Matt and he always had a smile on.Just a nice guy.R.I.P. Matteo
Cristina November 12, 2012 at 04:19 AM
So BaBa WaWa are you saying that sitting in traffic for a few extra minutes was more of a problem then the increase in deaths now?? I'd much rather sit in "horrendous" traffic then see people dieing. I'm not sure you would feel that way if it was a loved one of yours that this happened to. Matt was an amazing man, and was taken too soon from this earth. Rest in Paradise Matteo! <3
Darnell November 12, 2012 at 04:41 AM
So what your saying here is your time / convenience is more important than lives OR the safety problem that the lights w/b on 147th created.
Watchman November 12, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Its unfortunate another life has been lost . Prayers go out to the family. As for the intersection- the traffic lights are not the problem . It's the way people drive. I drive through this area every day and have seen how ignorant driver's are. They travel well over the posted speed limit, they roll through the red light to make a right turn and some just ignore stoplight . I have even seen a driver try to race through the yellow at a high rate of speed and end up in the ditch. Add alcohol to the equation ... you are obviously going to have an accident there . Too many people feel invincible when they drive . Obey the rules of the rules of the road and you won't have an accident.
Darnell November 12, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Once and for all if you read my original post,,yes it is the way people drive HOWEVER,,,when the stop signs were there people HAD to stop before going into the curve. They were entering the curve from a stop to acceleration and were entering the curve at a greatly reduced speed! The traffic light has just contributed to more accidents. Whether the curve is marked or not, EVEN people entering the curve on a green light adhering to or operating at a reduced speed, depending on road conditions may spin out. The light has increased the accidents in this direction, there is no argument here. This light, has allowed drivers to maintain the posted speed limit or reduced, entering a curve, contributing to an unsafe condition resulting in crashes, bodily injury and death. Driver error is also a contributing factor however this is compounded by the traffic light. The stop sign that was in place, helped keep driver error in check by forcing them to stop. Possible solutions? Post signs,, Dangerous Curve ahead 20 mph. SLOW. After rush hour in the evenings and am's,, switch to 3 way flashing red. Same as a stop sign.
Dave November 12, 2012 at 04:22 PM
I have to agree with Baba Wawa here on this point. The accident count from what I've seen has not changed. Maybe people are more aware of accidents now. I've lived in Oak Forest now for 26 years and have seen people run off the roadway going north AND west bound (actually literally see them drive off). Usually not paying attention. They installed the >>> and <<< signs about 20 years ago and that helped reduce but not eliminate the problem. It is the problem of reckless drivers for most, medical related for at least 2 that I remember seeing. People need to drive for the conditions of the road an pay attention to the signs. Without being there when the motorcyclist crashed I can only speculate, but one possibility is an animal (coyote or something that would have crashed him) ran across the road in front of him to cause him to lose control. Again, this is just a possibility being a complete accident. Helmets should be worn. I think the lights are way better than the stop-signs. Maybe the county could put up more signage right after the light warning of a sharp curve, but then again when people don't pay attention to signs it won't help.
Dave November 12, 2012 at 04:26 PM
It helps control the flow better true, but read my comment above, it hasn't increased the accidents from what I've seen. Most of the accidents I've seen are people heading Northbound on Oak Park going off the road. Another contributing factor to the accident was the wind. It was extremely windy that night and there were power failures probably due to wind damage to lines in Orland/Tinley area. Motorcycles don't handle well in windy conditions.
Darnell November 12, 2012 at 04:35 PM
20 years in OF, travel thru this intersection 5-6 times if not more daily. I have never seen more accidents in this curve WB than since the lights went in. It is self evident by the tire tracks in the dirt,,the continuously being replace / repaired phone communication box, and the personally witnessed which I havent counted numerous cars I have seen lose it, spin and if they didn't go off the road did a 360 and wound up on the N/B side off the road!
Darnell November 12, 2012 at 04:36 PM
To much time spent on this topic,,some people just can't see the forest for the trees!
Dave November 12, 2012 at 04:45 PM
This driver was NOT on 147th heading Westbound. He was heading NORTHbound on Oak Park. So this totally eliminates the light and beating the redlight etc situations here. Going Northbound there is even a sign that has the traffic light symbol warning of it, and there are the >>>> signs showing the right turn ahead. If it was not alcohol, there are 2 things that are hard to know without being there. Was it a gust of wind, debris from the wind in the roadway maybe, or was it an animal running across the road. If you are a responsible driver those things would still make you panic and being on a motorcycle its a different result than a car. Even worse result when you are NOT wearing a helmet. Without being there at the time, you can't really say what initially caused him to lose control. Being a NORTHbound direction of travel though you can rule out the stoplight as any part of the initial/primary cause here.
Ray November 12, 2012 at 06:04 PM
northbound warning sign was knocked several days before this trajedy. Am I the only one to notice this? What takes county so long to repair? lastly West bound 147th at Oak park is the most dangerous Ive ever seen. Name one other curve like that. The Civil engineer who approved that should be held responsible
Baba Wawa November 12, 2012 at 07:20 PM
You stop sign lovers, traffic moves much more smoothly now. I've lived in Oak Forest over 40 years and remember that curve was MUCH WORSE than it is now. It was lovingly known as Dead Man's Curve because there were accidents from EASTBOUND traffic on Oak Park approaching the intersection. There were plenty of signs going eastbound warning people of the curve. People disregarded it and didn't know there was a stop sign just around the corner. Then the county widened the curve, made it less sharp, and added lighting. It is a very heavily traveled intersection and to have it controlled with outdated methods such as stop signs is insane. People rarely signaled there when there were stop signs. There was no left turn lane from eastbound 147th onto northbound Justamere Rd. I remember seeing traffic westbound backed up to Ridgeland. Are emergency vehicles supposed to sit there and wait their turn? Now stoplights have traffic signal preemption, so they can change the light to green and have traffic move through the intersection. It's not about sitting in traffic a few extra minutes. You'd have more accidents with stop signs with that volume of traffic. How many instances have we had when approaching a stop sign intersection and "IT'S MY TURN!" to go and every corner has a car AS WELL as people in left turn lanes? ...
Baba Wawa November 12, 2012 at 07:30 PM
... 151/Central had stop signs for years with left turn lanes. It was dicey at times going through there especially turning left with other cars at the intersection. Now there's lights and traffic flows much more smoothly and safely. Can you envision stop signs at 159/Central or 159/Cicero? Keep in mind so far we don't know any details on the cause other than weather conditions and the roadway were clear It's a completely absurd argument to think putting stop signs BACK is going to "force" people to slow down going through a well lit curve with signage that they should know full well as responsible drivers to negotiate at the posted speed limit.
Dave November 12, 2012 at 07:47 PM
If it was the absence of warning signs to cause it, then it has NOTHING to do with whether it was a stop sign or stop light. So this is a whole other issue than everyone's complaint it is a problem with the light there.
Dave November 12, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Again for the "stop sign lovers", the other known information is the accident happened Northbound. This is information that is posted on the Trib article on this. So stopsign or traffic light. For this case it doesn't matter. I know the >>>> signs were up and standing cause I could see them from 151st St and Oak Park Ave. Even if missing a warning sign ahead telling of the curve, those signs are put across the turn. If they were missed there would be 2 causes, not paying attention or going too fast. And again the other cause that is hard to determine is wildlife crossing in front or wind (or debris caused by it).
Dawn November 12, 2012 at 08:43 PM
I am an OF resident and live close to that three way intersection. I agree with those that say, PUT THE STOP SIGNS back up. Since those lights have been installed, people r driving faster than usual just to get thru the lights. And don't get me started on the curve heading westbound on 147th! Whoever engineered that curve shld b fired! They were a wee bit off with their measurements, duh! RIP dear man...
Ray November 12, 2012 at 09:22 PM
Driving westbound on 147th at Oak Park on a wet or icy day. Can anyone name a more dangerous piece road? A blink of an eye and your car is going a down a 8 feet ravine. I have never seen anything like it. I'm aware of one fatality there, she a was a young gal. Please bring back the flashing red Stop light. Also, north bound on Oak Park, making a left on to Justamere is a long wait and poorly timed. Ive seen drivers go thru the Red light.
Watchman November 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM
The Goeseville Curve- North bound drivers usually try to hug the inside of the curve. There is a soft shoulder along with a culvert beyond the rubble strip. If your right wheel goes off the road your while driving above the post speed your car will be on its lid. Great solution -drop the speed limit to 25. Then drivers will hit the curve only at 30. Another reason they county could not change the road was the forest preserve property and a pipeline that run under the north section of Oak park
Mike Fangman November 13, 2012 at 06:31 AM
So you think a long since dead person should be fired?
Kathleen November 19, 2012 at 03:10 AM
I have lived 2 blocks away from this intersection for 23 years and since the lights have been installed we hear sirens from emergency vehicles constantly due to people in the ditch or losing control of their vehicles and ending up in the woods. I have called the Oak Forest City Hall asking for help to get guard rails ( or any other safety feature) installed along the curve on 147th and Oak Park Ave (by the curve/light) I even spent a day calling the Dept of Transportation trying to get help with this matter and no luck!!! My question is how many more individuals need to get hurt or killed before something is done about this intersection? It is deadly and unfortunately there will be more injuries if there is no solution to this problem. 3 souls have been lost at this intersection. 3 precious individuals. When will Oak Forest or the Dept of transportation realize it is time to step forward and do something!!!! Our block is inconvenienced by the back up of traffic but I cannot imagine anyone sacrificing a few more minutes to save a life.
Dave November 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM
I drove by this area yesterday and saw where the bike ended. He did not even make the turn. He was headed northbound and if you look close to where the cross is in the middle of the road you can see the paint marks of where the bike wheels were. He had to lose control before he even got to the turn. Guard rails would not have helped here and the light was not an influence to the accident looking at how things ended up.
Darnell November 19, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Hey Dave, REAAAD ! I never said THIS individual was going WB, I never commented on the PARTICULARS of this crash at all. I commented on the observance that I have made on the conditions that exist since the instillation of the lights.
Kathleen November 19, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Hi Dave, I did not go out and inspect the scene. The only thing that should matter is another person lost their life. Regardless of location on the street, guard rails, speed limits or light locations, this intersection/approach to the curve needs to be identified as a problematic and deadly intersection. It needs to be reconfigured so those who DO NOT live in Oak Forest or do not know about these incidents can have a safe road to travel on and those who DO live in Oak Forest will take a moment to slow down for the turn. I think we can all agree the main concern is for another person to avoid injuries or even death! When people come together to solve this problem it will be better for everyone whether they live in O.F. or not.
seth thomas December 01, 2012 at 03:13 AM
Darnell I've known Matt for 20 years.We all will miss him.I know he was a responsible driver,we will never know if a helmet would have saved him or if stop lights versus stop signs would have made a difference.He rode this street plenty of times and knew it well.It was a freak accident and we can try to figure out what happened.I've been driving down this road for 25 years and I try to steer clear of it.Hopefully you find peace like we all are trying to do.To the people in OF or driving through that area.Be safe or you could be like our friend.

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