What Should Go Here?
When Community Motors shut down, it also shut off a significant source of revenue in Oak Forest. Now the city's trying out a new tax financing district to help attract new businesses. But you tell us—what should go there?
As it stands, the former site of Community Motors is doing Oak Forest more harm than good. The 8-acre plot is losing value each day it stands vacant, and something has to be done, said Community Development Director Adam Dotson.
Officials are trying to restore the property to its previously bustling status. Recently, aldermen signed off on a special taxing incentive district to help draw business back to the area near 159th and Terrace Drive. The area encompasses the former dealership, Oak Forest Dental, Bjorklund Group Home and a church. Officials previously batted around the idea of a baseball academy, that had its drawbacks advantages, supporters and critics.
But we want to know: What do you think should go here? Leave your suggestions in the Comments section below.
Some Facebook fans had a few ideas, like a gym or a Whole Foods, for example. For the purpose of this discussion, while you're pondering what kind of business should go there—a burger joint, a coffee shop, a clothing store—try to think also about how whatever goes there should look and interact with the nearby business district and neighborhood.
Have at it.
LBoakforest
7:29 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
baseball academy would be great - my son drives to lemont to participate at a facility now. OFBA doesnt "allow" non-members to utilize their site - even if you are a resident of oak forest and would be willing to pay a fee to rent out a batting cage. OFBA runs their facility on the "'ol boys club" system.
NANCY GRACE
7:44 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
An Oak Forest Children's Museum would be great for the community.
Sarah J
1:43 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
LOVE this idea!!!!
Jason Akai
8:56 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Its my understanding that OFBA doesn't get funding from the city to run that building. And, its not really an academy like the one I would LOVE to see take over that spot. I think it would be great, and I don't really understand the arguements against it. I have this really awful feeling that this project is going to turn into the Oak Forest version of the Dixie Mall
Joseph Conway
9:36 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Jason and LB,
The building and the property where the OFBA batting cages are located exist as the result of a partnership between OFBA and the park district. The city has no connection to the facility. As for the community motors property, about a year ago, a private partnership approached both the city and the park district looking for a combined partnership to help purchase and redesign the existing facility into a "baseball/sports" complex. In the end, from the park district's perspective, the project would have been too costly and risky for what was being proposed and to the best of my knowledge, the project died.
Joe Conway
Park District Commissioner
Lauren Traut
9:59 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Yep, that's what I thought, too, Joe. I believed it had puttered out. Thanks for clarifying.
Joseph Conway
9:48 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
A recurring statement I've heard many times over since being elected as a park district commissioner is "I'd love to see some type of sports facility in Oak Forest like the one in Orland or Crestwood." The reality is that Oak Forest does not have the tax base today to build and support such a facility. Additionally, today's political climate clearly demands less government which also makes a sports facility built and run by a taxing body less likely. But in my opinion, all hope is not lost! Check out this article recently published in a west suburban newspaper: http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/westmont/topstories/x740680976/Officials-hoped-sports-facility-would-liven-up-town-s-south-side-businesses-not-drawn-yet
The article talks about "Westmont Yard" which is a sports facility built by private developers. I know this facility and since seeing it built I've thought it would be the perfect type of facility to be built on the old Community Motors property. With the city recently making that property a TIF district, maybe now is the time for our city's economic developer to take a ride out to Westmont and talk to the owners.
Joe Conway
Park District Commissioner
Lauren Traut
10:00 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Thanks for the contribution, Joe!
Jason Akai
10:01 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Joe - I think you're doing a fine job. It isn't easy to lead anything when so many people seem to be "experts" in what you do - lol.
I wouldn't want a tax payer supported facility - we don't have the retail that other cities do. We could have a privately/TIF supported space though. I think that would be great. I would be more than happy to support the people leading such a charge.
phxdr
10:04 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
I rarely drive past this plot of land because I usually am going in different directions then this one. But the last I remember Mazda was there right? Or am I thinking of a different property?
Jason Akai
10:05 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
You're at the right spot. Two car dealers in that space
Leda
10:09 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
A Brunswick Bowl equipped with Cosmic Bowling, video and token oriented games. Make it a place where families can go with kids, have birthday parties and most of all FUN!!
Amy Kupcake Litviak
10:27 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Leda i love that idea! make it something fun and family friendly. let's promote parents and kids doing things together.
Lauren Traut
10:39 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
I like this idea, too, but could another bowling alley compete with OF Bowl?
Leda
11:59 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
It can include an area for laser tag too. Leave OF Bowl for leagues and open a Brunswick bowl for all of your other bowling party needs.
Susan
1:15 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Oak Forest Bowl is very family friendly and offers Cosmic Bowling. Especially in the summer when each child can bowl two free games each day.
Families with kids could always go to Odyssey Fun World or Chuck E Cheese for the video/token games.
Rhonda Cesks
10:15 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
A family restuarant, Target or a similar store, a cultural business (I like the idea someone else had on a Children's Museum), something that keeps the families in Oak Forest and has others come visit our great community.
Bill Griffin
10:15 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Not sure about how feasible it would be, but I would love to see a Whirlyball venue there.
Joseph Conway
10:59 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
How about Whirlyball in the old Ace Hardware building on Cicero?
NANCY GRACE
10:30 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
There's enough bowling alleys around- and yes Oak Forest is baseball's "top shelf" sport...but how about an indoor SOCCER complex? Indoor soccer,basketball, etc. An indoor facility is needed.
Joseph Conway
10:37 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
I agree Tony, an indoor facility where kids and adults could play soccer, basketball, lacrosse, gymnastics, etc. would be awesome!
Joseph Conway
10:34 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
How about IKEA? No, not on that property because it's too small. But how about at 167th and Cicero? I know I'm going to stir up a hornet's nest with this location suggestion, but just maybe, with property values depressed and taxes up, now is the right time for a developer such as IKEA to negotiate with the existing property owners in that area? Google IKEA and you will see that the next closest IKEA store to our east is 248 miles away in Canton, Michigan and there is none farther south anywhere nearby. Tax revenue, jobs, convenient shopping, easy highway access (two highways and eventually a third with the I-294/57 interchange finally being constructed) and a train station just a mile away? I hear rumors that an Old Navy, Binny's and a Buffalo Wild Wings is going to be built at 147th and Cicero. Country Club Hills has a pretty decent retail development just on the other side of this location and that city has long term plans to build outlet stores just south of this property. A store such as IKEA seems to me to be a pretty good fit and just might be the catalyst to other developments.
Lauren Traut
10:40 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Joe, I love the idea of an IKEA, but can I blame you if I go broke? :)
Jason Akai
10:49 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Joe! That's hilarious! I said the same thing but I forgot to log in - move food for less and make that an Ikea
Joseph Conway
10:52 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
No Lauren, you can not blame me! But maybe you would be able to start another PATCH first...A local reality blog called "Come see what cool new things Lauren bought today!"
Joseph Conway
11:05 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Jason,
I read your bio here on the PATCH and you and I are a lot alike. I too see myself as a problem solver who likes to bring others together to solve a problem. And as you know, OF has it's share of problems especially in the tax base area. I think everyone's comments here are great and I hope to see more. The next step is for everyone who cares, to attend some city council meetings and ask the council and our economic development person for regular updates on what is being done to improve the situation. I don't mean that last suggestion in any type of negative context. I simply believe our community's economic situation is worse than many other communities and that more of us need to get involved to help get this great city back on a good track for now and for the city's future.
Baba Wawa
4:29 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
What about the Ikea in Bolingbrook?
Josh Dinzmore
10:45 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
I Agree With Joe Conway Something like the Westmont Yard Would be the best Fit for this Property.
Neil Foster
10:58 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
A value movie theater like the old Brementowne!
Dionne
11:17 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
How about a Whole Foods?! A new Whole foods will be opened in the fall in Orland Park but i think closer to home is always better! ;)
OR how about a new big gym? I don't believe OF has a gym besides the park district. right?
Leda
12:02 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Indoor sports complex complete with indoor batting cages, basketball nets, soccer nets, etc. A place to practice for serious off season athletes.
Meg Kinnerk
1:26 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
A Starbucks, an upscale restaurant, a children's boutique clothing store. Children's museum, Ikea...No Car parts or car repair shops PLEASE!
Jennifer Bitunjac Lody
2:30 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
I wrote a nice response and then said I wasn't logged in and deleted what I typed. Nice! What my original post said was that as an Oak Forest resident I would enjoy a 24-hour sports center/gym with a swimming facility. The current Oak Park fitness/sport/gym facility doesn't have great hours for the workin' folk. I only bothered to check years ago--but remember the hours were odd for a gym. Our previous gym experience was upwards of $100 a month for the gym w/swimming pool in Orland Park--a lot of Oak Forest residents were members with us. I didn't even realize Oak Forest had a pool until 5 years in. Just would be great to have a facility open 24 hours with either a pool/spa/steam room available year round.
I agree with other posters...NO car places.
Jennifer Bitunjac Lody
2:31 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Second part: Just thinking about normal shopping like food--Food for Less and Jewel are great in Oak Forest (Dominicks is missed as well), gas stations (I do llike the facility on Cicero already and the corner of 167th is great too), clothing, now here is Oak Forest's problem, in our area (167th) I would either go to Fashion Bug in Orand, the mall in Orland, some of the strip mall shops in Tinley. I have gone to TJ Max and Burlington in Oak Forest. Would be nice to have a Target closer or another clothing store.
Even our craft store is closed on Sundays! To me that doesn't make any sense, but whatever. And some of the 'breakfast' restaurants that we have close so early and don't serve lunch. So there is a lot of room for business/comsumer spending increase opportunities in Oak Forest.
phxdr
4:12 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
The gym is not going to happen. 90% of Americans enjoy getting their Mcdonalds and sitting behind the TV watching Fox News or Dancing with the Stars. You have Xsport now in Crestwood, Cardinal Fitness all over, and Lifetime in Orland. Put a fork in that idea..its done. The fact is a big part of getting business in here is getting the people in office out.