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Two Youths Stabbed Shortly after Fireworks Display

The victims tell police they were stabbed at about 10:15 p.m. Wednesday just down the street from Oak Fest.

 

Two juveniles were stabbed late Wednesday night about two blocks from Oak Fest.

The two victims, who reportedly provided little information to authorities about their attackers, told police they were in the area of Long Avenue and 155th Street at about 10:15 p.m. when they were stabbed.

Police said they received a call about the stabbing at around 11:15 p.m. Wednesday after the victims had reportedly moved to the 16000 block of Forest.

One of the juveniles said they were down the block from Oak Fest, according to police. The festival was located near the intersection of 157th Street and Long and had closed down at 10 p.m. after the annual fireworks display.

“One victim was uncooperative. The other provided minimum information,” said police Chief Greg Anderson.

The only description given was for the attacker was a man with long hair, police said.

This attack mirrors a similar stabbing that happened after the July 4, 2011 fireworks at Oak Fest.

Both victims were hospitalized for their injuries but it was unclear Thursday if they had been released. One suffered a stab wound to chest and two wounds to a leg. The second victim had two wounds to his thigh.

No arrests have been reported in connection with the stabbing.

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Amy Kupcake Litviak

12:59 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

seems like each year this fest is getting worse and worse.

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Tired of the B.S.

1:26 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I find it very hard to believe somebody would walk 1/2 a mile and wait a hour to report being stabbed. Why wouldn't they tell the police what happened? Kinda seems a little fishy to me.

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Dave

1:26 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Let's remember this was after Oak Fest was closed and outside the Oak Fest grounds. Police presence was increased in the outer perimeter outside of the fest grounds during the fireworks display and after during the mass exodus of patrons. Also with uncooperative victims it is hard to find a motive of the attack. Too many open ended questions to directly say that Oak Fest is getting worse and worse. Also remember we are one of the few fireworks displays in the area and attract other towns other than Oak Forest residence to the show. The description of the attacker also does not sound like last year's attacker either.
Shutting down the carnival at 10pm also was a good idea as this year to the best of my knowledge there were no fights in the carnival area proper.

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Tired of the B.S.

2:27 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Don't forget that at the corner of 155th and Long is St. Damians Church that had a parking lot full of cars that a lot of people were returning to after the fireworks. Nobody saw two kids getting stabbed multiple times??? I don't know about anybody else, but if I was stabbed, I would probably make some kind of noise...a scream or maybe yell " HELP, I'VE JUST BEEN STABBED!!!!"

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Nancy

8:40 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Yes there was a fight behind Discount tire on Sunday night. With weapons!

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Dave

8:41 am on Monday, July 9, 2012

Nancy, reading your response here. What does the Discount Tire event have to do with the 2 stab victims after the fireworks display?

If it is in relation to Oak Fest, the Fest was already closed both the carnival and the entertainment tent. I did not witness the altercation that provoked the incident, but I know there was one.

Overall during the fest hours both in the carnival and the beer garden there were significantly less problems as opposed to previous years.

OF Resident

1:26 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Every year my family and I look forward to OakFest. We plan weeks in advance where all our friends and family will meet to enjoy music by Infinity, it has become one of our summer tradition. But I do have to agree, that this event is getting worse every year! Gangs (wannabes), punks, drunks, underage drinking, loud mouth fools are ruining it for others. This year’s carnival was horrible and all it does is bring in trash that our city doesn’t need! Maybe it’s time Oak Forest looks for an alternative to OakFest!!!

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Ruth Ensing

2:28 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Carnival was terrible! Fireworks were great! Hats off to all the volunteers who gave their time to organize the event and work during all that heat. Maybe there are ideas out there that could improve the fest and bring it back to the family oriented roots.

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Dave

2:28 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Colleen, the underage drinking should be non-existent except for the individuals who are providing the alcohol to the minors. It is a VERY controlled environment as the alcohol is limited to the beer tent for the whole time and for a time up until 9pm the food vendor area. No one can stop underage drinking except the minors who are doing it. If there is a will there is a way. Drunks... Can't help them either. Those are the people who drink and not know their limits. I know my limit, 1 drink and its like 1 or 2 times a year. I'm on call 24/7 most of the time and I've seen way to many DUI accidents to want to even think about. Punks. This one can be helped. Maybe with proper parenting and a sense of responsibility on the child this can be reduced (not eliminated). Gangs are going to happen anywhere. Hopefully with new laws gangs will start to keep it on a down-low, but they will still be around. All I want them to do is act mature and a responsible manner at the fest. Loud mouths, gonna happen, everyone has their own opinion and needs to express it, even at the most inappropriate times.
Carnival had some slight changes and had I think less rides than and I think less games than normal.
The circus on the other hand, I did not get to see it personally, but from overhearing some people it was a great add-on.

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Brandi Foxx

8:16 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I agree with Colleen. My family and I were at the football field for the fireworks. I too saw kids smoking blunts and and using the f word every two seconds. On the way over the bridge towards the concession stand a fight was about to break out. Garbage was everywhere. Is this the state of our community? I know times change but how did it come to this? I will to seriously consider moving within the next couple of years.

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Sue1

8:10 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Can you come up with a fundraiser that would raise the monies Oak Fest does for all the organizations in town? I can't. As for Gangs, punks, etc. That seems to be the world we live in. The only alternative I can think of is that they would fence it off and charge an admission fee like Gaelic does. That may keep some of the less desirables out.

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Sue1

8:09 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Can you think of another fundraiser that would raise the monies Oak Fest does for all the organizations in town? Yes, there were some people there that I would have been happy to not have there, but I also saw plenty of people having a great time. As for the carnival, well, it's been the same the last few years. I didn't have the opportunity to see the circus, but heard others say they enjoyed it. The only thing I can think of to do to keep some undesireables out is if they fenced it off and charged admission like Gaelic.

Oak Forest Resident

2:28 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

It didn't actually happen at Oak Fest... it was after it was over and it a couple blocks away. I would guess the victims were on their way out of Oak Fest, but we can't blame this on the festivities themselves. From where I was, I noticed heavier security than previous years, but at that didtance from the location of Oak Fest itself, I wouldn't doubt there was little or no security because it's away from the borders of the actual venue.

I also wouldn't jump to say that Oak Fest is getting worse, it's the kids that come that get stupider about their behavior. From the vague story and description that the police got from the victims, it sounds like the victims are not really telling the whole truth. I passed a few obnoxious and vulgar teens verbally disrespecting the security that was there on my way home, and was shocked at how casual they were about it. But I wouldn't blame their behavior on Oak Fest, its the lack of morals they are being taught and they happen to all come to Oak Fest because of the limited 4th of July activities in the immediate area.

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Nick Swedberg

2:29 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Thank you for the comments. You make some good points.

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Dave

3:18 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Thank you Oak Forest Resident. That sort of reiterates what I stated in my post. A lot of the problems are the morals of the kids nowadays and then them growing up physically but not socially. Security personnel (PD and EMA) had additional mobile transport which helped increase response time and also the range of the covered area.

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Sue1

8:08 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

I totally agree. I saw this myself. Couple of kids, walking around saying F the police. Too bad the police didn't lock the little jerks up.

I wonder if anyone that sees these kids "smoking blunts" went up to them and told them to stop it, to move on, that they didn't want it to happen. Maybe if others didn't ignore it and made them uncomfortable, they wouldn't show up.

Ruth Ensing

2:28 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

There was also some type of skirmish right before the fireworks started on the walking path by the detention pond around 9:15 or 9:30. Don't know if it was the same people involved but several onlookers gave chase to stop it from escalating.

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Marge

2:27 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I have lived in this town for the past 18 years. My parents moved my siblings and I here when I was five because of the way our neighborhood was changing. Oak Forest was our solace. I grew up with an ideal childhood. Friendly neighbors and faces were wherever you went. Now years later, it sadly isn't the case. Now don't get me wrong, I still love this town and truly believe it has good, honest, and kind people in it. Unfortunately however, there are a few bad apples that ruin it for everyone. These kids who deem themselves "'hood" and "gangstas" need to be dropped off somewhere in Chicago and see what it means to be "ghetto." All this boils down to is poor choices by bored suburban children. It's sad that their way of dealing with situations is violence. We, as a community, need to find a way to come together and make this stop. If we don't intervene now, someone is going to need more than just a few stitches.

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Oak Forest Resident

8:37 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

I agree Marge, similarly to what I stated in my earlier post, we as a community should invest in the young people of this town. Mostly, it has to do with the poor choices of the individuals themselves, but if parents and neighbors and friends step in to help teach these young people better morals and responsible behavior, and provide alternate activities that can keep them from getting bored, I think that things have the potential to change. If any of these were my kids, I'd hope that someone would step up and say something to them. Parents can't see what they are up to 100% of the time. I truly believe that it does take a village...

Vicki

3:18 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I was at the fireworks and I saw a lot of punks and trash! Punk kids hanging out on their bikes in the middle of the path staring people down not moving when familes were trying to get through. I got to raiders field at about 8:15 and I saw one police car trying to find out who was lighting the fireworks. After that, nada! Numerous people were lighting those laterns with the huge flames on a crowded field. Nobody stopped them. I lived in OF for 25 years and enjoyed the fireworks but sadly my husband will not go back next year after what he saw.

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Tired of the B.S.

4:32 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

That's too bad, Vicki. When people like you and your husband stop going, all that will be left are the kind of people nobody wants. I hate where this is leading. Soon, we will not have an Oak Fest because nobody will want to risk going and being around people that have no respect for others or themselves. I will keep going but I hope it changes before something really bad happens. Maybe a few plainclothes police (or more than a few) would help.

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Oak Forest Resident

8:37 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Vicki, I am sorry to hear that he will not be returning. I plan on continuing to go, and it's because I still enjoy the festivities and the fireworks and I won't let stupid people ruin my experience.

Nick, or anyone, how involved are the residents able to get in what we can do to help make next year's Oak Fest a better, safer, and more enjoyable experience? Is it run by a committe or do we have no say at all?

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Nick Swedberg

8:39 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

@Oak Forest Resident–You can contact the Oak Fest organizers at by emailing Info@OakFest.com. I imagine that is a good place to start.

erin johnson

4:33 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Oak Fest I agree isn't what it used to be. But there is the park on the other side of the retention pond where there is no real idiocy going on and you're away from all the bs. Oak fest still isn't horrible, just needs to eliminate the punks and prostitots

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Ruth Ensing

4:33 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

Nick - Do the comments from Patch's Facebook page make it to here?

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Nick Swedberg

4:36 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

@Ruth—No, a comment on Facebook will not automatically appear on Patch. You are more than welcome to comment on both the Facebook page and this article, though.

Holly Campbell

4:33 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I enjoyed the fireworks however there were no volunteers directing traffic outside of the parking lot. It took over an hour to even get to 159th Street. There were no police anywhere except at the main intersections. More police and volunteers are needed from 10-11 p.m. in the parking lot to help guide people out of the lot. I'm sorry someone was stabbed however the extreme heat I'm sure played a big factor.

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John Baldry

4:33 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

We drove down 155th St. to avoid traffic on 159th St. That was a big mistake. They need to have police on the corners to assist with the foot traffic of all the folks who park in St. Damien's parking lot. I was surprised by the side of the crowd walking from the fireworks and I'm not surprised that something bad can happen in a crowd that size.

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Hmmm...

6:30 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I had a great time with my family at Oak Fest...I go every year. I guess its your experience. There are going to be punks and ignorant people at Oak Fest. Either you let it ruin your time or you don't. You can't fix everyone you have a problem with. It takes all kinds.

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Nick Swedberg

6:32 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

@Julie—It seems like a lot of other people had a similar experience to yours.

Richard Adamski

6:30 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I have been hearing that this was the last year for Oak fest any way because the property has been sold. If anyone knows anything more on this please comment.
I like many other people enjoy the fireworks and would miss it dearly.

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Nick Swedberg

6:31 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

This is the first I've heard that. Please email me at nicks@patch.com.

patti s

6:29 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

these days you never know wouldn't be surprised if they were fighting each other and just don't want to get in any trouble so blame it on the long haired guy.

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Vicki

6:28 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

@tired of the BS I agree with you but if I don't feel safe. I had a 3 year old in tow. I would have felt a lot safer if I saw more police presence (on foot). Maybe they were there and I just didn't see em but I was looking. I didnt care for the fireworks being blown off behind me or the huge laterns being sent off. I'm just paranoid about that stuff especially when you don't know it's happening and flames are floating over your head. OF sure isn't the same place I grew up but is anywhere really? Too bad though....

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Tired of the B.S.

8:08 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Yeah, it would have been nice to see a few more police on foot. I think if they were out in the crowd they would be able to see more. If you make events like this unfriendly to the people that want nothing more than to create problems, maybe they would be the ones that stop coming.

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Sue1

8:08 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

There were plenty of police around. The problem I think is that there are only so many of them and the space too big. Can't be everywhere at the same time. I also think it was a great idea to shut the carnival down at 10. The laterns I was ok with, the explosive stuff in a crowd, not a good thing.

Jessie

8:08 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012

I went to the first night of Oak Fest and I didn't run into any problems at all. The people, music and fireworks were great. I also have young children and I wasn't worried about their safety that night.

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Tired of the B.S.

8:07 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

We went the first night and you are right. The crowd was much smaller and I think that had a lot to do with the much calmer time.

Catherine Sabeckis Casper

8:09 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

My husband and I had an in depth talk about this tonight. We have always looked forward to going, however we have agreed that our 10 year tradition of seeing the Oak Fest fireworks has come to an end. It's bad enough we don't go into the fest anymore... But we should feel safe on the lawn of the high school with our children. Instead we have people blowing off bottle rocket type fireworks behind us (from the corner houses off of 151st and Mission). We have "supposed" stabbings a few blocks from where we were sitting. Hardly any police presence. It's sad really. They claimed to hire a new amusement company so there were more rides geared toward the teens. For what? They don't appreciate it. They are disrespectful to their elders and those who try to make this a nice time for THEM. If my son EVER acted the way some of these kids were... His butt is mine and he knows it. Why? Because I put the fear of GOD in him that's why. I parent my child. I don't let him roam off on his own or get involved with kids I don't know. PERIOD. The parents need to step up and stop hiding behind lame excuses. Be a presence in YOUR child's life. Don't have the time you say? MAKE THE TIME! These are our children. Back when I was their age, if I did something wrong and another adult yelled at me, I listened and kept my mouth, SHUT. It's called RESPECT. They want it so bad but they don't want to give it. Thank you Oak Forest for giving us 10 years of "Oak Fest" memories.

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Oak Forest Resident

8:07 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

I was at the house that it "happened in front of" and at about 11 is when I was entering the house and nothing was going on. But at about 1 when I was about to go home the street was blocked off and we were unable to leave. There was never any noise of a fight or anything like that.

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NANCY GRACE

8:08 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

OAK FEST SHOULD BE MOVED TO GAELIC PARK! THEY SHOULD CHARGE A FEE TO GET INSIDE THE GROUNDS TO KEEP SOME OF THE PUNKS OUT! PUNKS WOULD HAVE A HARDER TIME TRYING TO LURK OUTSIDE THE GROUNDS TO SMOKE POT/DRINK. WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE?

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Baba Wawa

10:29 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

"WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN DONE?"

Because it's an incredibly asinine idea.

Dutch Oven Chef

8:40 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

I was at the fest 4 days (mainly in a working capacity). I saw a solid police presence in the fest and outside it. Of course, I saw my share of disrespecting teens but I also saw a hundred times that many that were polite and having a great time! I did not go into the carnival area but my kids told me how much the rides were and I told them I would rather spend a few more bucks and go to Great America! (Over $5 for ONE ride on Gravitron???)

Overall, I'd say it was another great Fest and if you go next year, find one of the folks wearing a blue shirt with OakFest on the back and tell them thanks! They are the commissioners who start work during to winter to make the fest happen! I volunteer for one of the groups that look forward to the funds our group gets from working at the fest!! That money goes a LONG way toward helping us to keep a very successful program going at a high level!

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Patty Z

9:35 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

I agree that Oak Fest has lost it's "family" feeling. I noticed a great many "undesireables" especially in the carnival area. I would not have even considered bringing my grandchildren to that carnival. It was almost creepy to walk through. It's a shame...I love Oak Forest and have always enjoyed going to Oak Fest each year but something needs to change. I hope it's not a sign of things to come for our community.

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Jen

10:06 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

Oak Fest is defintley not what it once was, but you can't say Oak Forest or its residents have gone downhill. People from all over the area come to watch the fireworks and hang out at the carnival; the price we pay for having a good show. As far as the kids who got stabbed, they were stabbed on 155th and made it all the way to 160th?? Why didnt they ask for help from the 10 cops that were patrolling 159th? Sounds fishy!

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JustanObserver

10:15 am on Friday, July 6, 2012

It is sad that in all of these comments, not one person mentions helping the teens and youths deal with the violence around them. We can place blame on everyone and everything else but the question is, what do you do to make the world a better place for a child, a teen, another person in the community? In other words... do we actually model care and concern for our neighbors or do we just sit and complain about them? The moment someone says, 'They are not my concern' is the moment we have no affect in the words we speak. Adults are the ones to teach kids what community is, and how we are responsible to each other within it.

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Ruth Ensing

12:37 pm on Friday, July 6, 2012

I'm not sure what this means. We have an abundance of park district and sports organizations in Oak Forest many of which are run by volunteers. We have excellent schools. In most instances, parents get the type of behavior they expect from their kids and it doesn't start when they are teenagers. It has to start at the beginning. Do you know your kids' friends? Do you see what they look like when they leave your house and when then come home again? Do you notice changes in their behavior? There is only so much that schools and the community can do. I agree with other posts that say that Oak Fest raises a great deal of money for community organizations and I applaud those volunteers. I sure would hate to see the whole thing go down the drain because of a certain element in the crowd. I think the suggestion that the grounds be fenced in something to think about. Without the Fest, we will not have the fireworks display so let's get together as a community and decide what behavior we want to tolerate and what is unacceptable.

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Can't keep quiet

10:29 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

I have been reading all these posts, and stayed quiet until now because there is so much judgement in everyone's words that I didn't care to deal with the backlash my own post might create. Thanks to yours, "Justan Observer," I will take the time to respond. What do we do to create a better place for these kids?

As a person close to one of the gentleman who found himself in the hospital for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, I was horrified to hear this child tell his mom how scared he was in the moments after the attack. While young men often find their mouths landing them in hot water, no one ever deserves violence like that. While most of the responses are critical of the time differences posted in this article, critical of how suppossedly 'uncooperative' these two kids were, and critical of the parents raising them - where is the criticism for WHY a child thinks it's ok to attack others with a deadly weapon???

I can assure you that at least one of these kids has a home life where education is encouraged and family is put first. With parents who work hard to make a living to provide this young man with an opportunity greater than they themselves had - just like the rest of us who are parents.

What do we do to model how our children should act? Well, one of these kids felt so unsafe crying out for help, he only wanted to go home to get his mom to help him. I pray he doesn't read this website, I wouldn't want many of these posts to be his model.

NANCY GRACE

10:28 am on Saturday, July 7, 2012

They should then fence in the entire event and charge a fee to enter. Have police on each side to prevent people from entering who didn't pay. Also they need to LOWER the price of rides for kids. $5 is horrible.

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Cat

8:22 am on Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Having lived in Oak Forest for well over twenty years, I have to admit that I go out of my way to avoid Oak Fest like the plague. We (my husband, our four children, myself) attend the fireworks but haven't "camped out" on the grounds in probably four or five years; we stay as far away as possible while still being able to secure a spot where we can see the good majority of the display. While I think it might be a little hyper-critical to bemoan the "lack of police presence" (I'm confident they did the best they could with what they had to work with), a quick drive through the hub of Oak Fest left both of us shaking our heads. I'm glad several people mentioned the lanterns and I will be honest...I'm a little surprised that I saw more than one or two set sail with seemingly no repercussion. The carnival, I feel, is nothing but a draw to chaos. I would sooner refinance the house to pay the exorbitant entry fee for a family of six at Irish Fest @ Gaelic than step foot on the Oak Fest grounds for much, much less cash. I'm wondering what it will take for the city to wake up and realize this affair is headed in the wrong direction. A large scale fight? A homicide? I honestly hope that it doesn't require such a lofty loss to illustrate the need to ditch Oak Fest and take another route toward raising money for local charities, etc.

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