UPDATED: 1 Dead, 1 Hospitalized after Oak Forest House Fire
One woman is dead and a man is hospitalized after a house fire in the 15200 block of Central Avenue in Oak Forest Tuesday morning.
Updated, 6:00 p.m.
One of the victims of a house fire in Oak Forest Tuesday sustained injuries “not related” to the blaze, Sun-Times Media reports.
Original Story
A 40-year-old woman is dead and her 48-year-old husband remains hospitalized after a fire in their home near 153rd and Central Avenue Tuesday morning.
Neighbors reported smoke pouring out of the home's windows this morning around 9 a.m. Firefighters arriving on the scene at 15230 S. Central Ave. found a man unresponsive on the front porch, according to police.
Erica Rodriguez was found dead inside the home, according to Oak Forest Police Chief Greg Anderson. An autopsy is scheduled for Wednesday.
Her husband Martin Rodriguez was transported to South Suburban Hospital, and later transferred to Advocate Christ Medical Center.
Oak Forest Fire Chief Terry Lipinski told Sun-Times reporters that one of the victims sustained injuries not related to the fire, but would not elaborate on which victim, or the injuries.
Neighbor Lydia Ponzcak witnessed both victims being removed from the fire. Martin Rodriguez was bloodied in the chest area, she observed.
"It looked to me like he had streaks of blood on his chest," she said.
His wife was carried out of the home covered up to the chest, and her face appeared "badly, badly burned."
Ponczak called the couple "absolutely great neighbors," who were very friendly and would wave.
"They were very nice people, as far as we could tell," she said. "We never heard any arguments coming from there or any noise. Kids were well-behaved, never trouble in the neighborhood. They lived there about 8 years."
Officers are treating the scene as a crime scene, Anderson said, adding that it is standard operating procedure. The Illinois State Fire Marshal and South Suburban Major Crimes Task Force are investigating.
The couple's three children—a daughter aged 17, son aged 15, and daughter aged 6—were in school at the time of the fire.
"I can't imagine leaving your home to go to school and when you come home, there's no home, no family there," Ponczak said. "One of your parents is dead and the other one is clinging to life."
Patch will update as more details become available.
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Michael M.
11:52 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
That is terrible news. I feel bad and offer my prayers for that family and the kids
Dave
11:57 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My condolences to the family and hope that the husband makes it through at least.
Alexis O'Farrell
11:58 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I am sickened by this news and am praying for this family and their children.
Sandra Czyznikiewicz
12:00 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Thoughts and prayers go out to the family.
NANCY GRACE
12:10 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
She was sweetest person, very intelligent and beautiful. She gave her time to help kindergarten children at the Ridge last year as a teacher aid. She enjoyed going on all the field trips with the children. Such a great loss. My son is the same age as her daughter. I feel so sad for the children.
Russell Bal
12:11 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
God bless this family. If we can help please contact us.
Mike F.
1:00 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Sorry to hear about this :(. My condolences to the family and friends.
Deb Pahl Stearns
1:39 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Was so praying this wasn't going to happen. Do the kids have family local or a support system?
Graham
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I suspected this was going to happen. So sad to see it come to pass.
Judy C
1:54 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Erica was a wonderful woman, I am so glad I got the chance to know her through our book club and sports at OFHS. God bless her family.
Dawn Kenny
1:57 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
God Bless this family.
phxdr
2:03 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
The cause and origin of this fire is too early to tell. I will say that many of these fires this time of year are caused by holiday decorations (such as on christmas trees).
Do NOT leave your christmas lights on and go to bed or take a snooze. Again I am not claiming this is the cause of this fire but it is a common cause this time of year. Turn your lights off when you go to bed.
Mike F.
2:29 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Thanks for the PSA, but this fire was deliberately set.
Stones
3:17 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Mike, what makes you say it was deliberately set? The Chief said it's a criminal investigation. His full qoute is on the Southtown website where he finishes the statement by saying it's standard procedure to rule anything out. Best we hold off until we know for sure when the police of fire departments release their statement. In the meantime there are 3 children in a pretty bad way now, that's where our concern should be.
OF Resident
4:11 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
You can't believe everything you read. There is more to the story then there are telling everyone
Lauren Traut
4:14 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
OF Resident,
As with most fires and the investigations that follow, I'm sure additional details will come to light. We'll report them as they become available.
Thank you for being such a devoted reader.
Lauren Traut,
Associate Regional Editor
phxdr
4:43 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Mike- I agree with you somewhat. It would be highly unusual for 2 people to die in a fire that are able to escape that were not sleeping (people awake are not just going to detect smoke and do nothing). So is foul play a maybe? Sure. The second option is that they went back to sleep maybe after leaving a burner on the stove on, or leaving christmas lights on.
It is SOP to designate a fire scene a crime scene when someone dies though.
Dave
9:41 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Anytime its a fatality, be it a fire, or traffic accident, it becomes a crime scene. The main reason is to preserve ALL the evidence that remains intact to help determine what happened. This is especially the case since the person who is dead cannot testify on what happened. It could have been purely accidental as in a burner, electrical after taking a nap, etc. It is standard procedure for early on not to discuss too much until all those facts can be solidly agreed on by the investigators and not lead false information into the media. It's bad enough when media or the public create their own accusations and versions. Also the PIO (Public Information Officer) is the designated person on scene to handle these type of questions, not the officer doing traffic control, as they know less information than people listening to the news usually do because they are doing the job they are responsible for, keeping the scene secure for the investigation. Put yourself in the victims shoes. Would you want someone making accusations about you before all the facts are known? That is not fair to any party and especially the victims and family. They have the procedure and follow it exactly because in order for it to stand in court criminal or civil, they need to prove they followed all the SOPs and also can verify and without a doubt present their case. Remember their findings also affect how insurance will look at the case also. It may be slow, but getting it done right is best.
Dave
9:34 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
To OF Resident, you are right, there is more to the story, but going along my post and Lauren's comment, they need to know facts are definite and set in stone before presenting them to the public.
NANCY GRACE
2:13 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Erica dropped her child off at school at 8am then returned home.
Cheryl Hubbard
2:52 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
This is just devastating news. Good, kind loving people. very welcoming to us when we moved into the neighborhood. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family. : (
NANCY GRACE
3:08 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Mike how do you know it's arson??
Mike F.
3:10 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
It's called "destroying the evidence".
Techy
3:08 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I echoe with the prayers and please let us know how we can help these children.
What church do they go? maybe we can let them know how to reach us all who want to help. In these times of tragedy we need to act as a caring community.
NANCY GRACE
3:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Mike what article are you reading
Michael M.
3:34 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
If you are going to post facts about the case it would be helpful if you would list your source so that we may confirm. My daughters said school was full of rumors about this and it is not helpful to the surviving kids to post unsubstantiated information. ALWAYS, ALWAYS, list your source, it gives you more credibility.
Graham
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Maybe you can't list your source. Maybe some people knew him and suspected this was a very real possibility.
NANCY GRACE
3:34 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Brian says who
Barb Wallace
3:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
So sad, my condolences to the family and God Bless the children and protect them.
NANCY GRACE
3:54 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Thanks Lauren
NANCY GRACE
3:58 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Brian who is your source
Blackhawks Fan
3:59 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My thoughts and prayers goes out to their family and friends especially the three children.
Lupe Garcia
4:06 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Our hearts are grieved and will remember the Rodriguez family in our prayers. May the Lord bring peace and comfort to the family.
Ryan Gibbons
4:30 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Between Mike F and Brian S they need to quickly realize they are making a horrible situation so much worse by starting rumors. My sister knows the oldest daughter and I could not imagine what she is going through. Thoughts and prayers to the family and friends.
Mike F.
4:40 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I'm speaking from my experience working in the Cook County court system. There have been several murder cases where the perpetrator tried to conceal the crime by setting a fire.
Michael M.
5:03 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I am speaking from experience that there are fires that do not have any foul play.
Bob Laird
9:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
mike f., is your "experience" limited to sweeping flooors? This may be a crime. It may be an accident. Let's let the officials determine that. Anything else at this point is conjecture. did I spell that right? I arrived home at 17:00 and they were still investigating. let's quit guessing and just worry about the family.
Andrea Guglielmo
4:33 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I did not know the family but live in the community. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.
Jill Vickers
4:44 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Is anything set up for donations for the children?
Ryan Gibbons
4:58 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Mike F, but there is a million and one reasons that fire may have started. Unless you work for oak forest fire or criminal investigations, facts need to be behind a statement that the children could see and read that someone is suggesting foul play. From what I understand from my sister knowing the daughter and my parents knowing then from school activities and previous statements from neighbors, there is nothing from our point of view to suggest the fire was and I quote you "deliberately set"
OF Resident
5:02 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
It was a murder and attempted murder. The women was found dead in the house and the man was found on the porch with a wound that had nothing to do with the fire. The fire was a cover up. Now if this is related to the to escaped convicts, can't confirm, but Laura I am shocked that you really don't have the all the information or do you, and for some reason you are being quite about it!
Lauren Traut
5:26 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
OF Resident,
There is NO further information being issued by police at this time. No details have been released, either in regards to the fire, or any purported connection to the escaped bank robbers. We will obtain the police report, as well as follow up with additional questions to authorities.
Please, respect what this family is going through and wait—just like we are—for the facts to be confirmed.
Thank you.
Lauren
Dave
9:39 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
*Applause for Lauren*
OF Resident, without any type of proper investigation, any type of accusations would be pointless. I'm starting to wonder if you ever served on jury in either civil or a criminal case. I've served on a month long case on jury for a civil matter and all evidence was carefully collected and compiled for 18 years on the case.
Remember our judicial system is set up in a matter that the accused is assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. So crucifying someone without knowing all the facts and letting them be properly assembled is a bad idea.
Picture yourself, if I accused you with some circumstantial evidence of a crime, would you want the police just blurting out unsupported "facts" about the incident, or would you want a full and thorough investigation performed to actually tell the tale without a "he said/she said" type of deal which would get no where, especially in court, but the rumor mill can hurt anyone's reputation, like how I can hurt yours in this type of situation where there is circumstantial but not a solid investigative evidence to back it up. So let the PIO (Public Information Officer) get the facts gathered from the investigators and let them present it.
People say weapons hurt, well words can kill, too. Especially since the mother is survived by her children, who would be victimized by any such rumors. The best thing to do for the children is stop any unwarranted accusations and "lynch-mobbing"
Tina Lipkowski
5:04 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Please be respectful of the family. 3 kids lost there mother. My son is friends with the daughter. I met Erica at a school awards ceremony. We talked for hours. She was very nice. She really loved her kids. I will pray for them. This has been a very sad week for so many people. Please pray for peace on earth!!!! Tina
Michael M.
5:05 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Why is it that you people post information, but refuse to reveal the source?
Ryan Gibbons
5:13 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My final remark on this conversation because the people posting this slander is disgusting will be that until the police give an official statement of what actually happened. My word is just as good as any of yours but the difference between me and you is that I am not stating extremely insensitive posts. I quote my sister right now "the idea of this being intentional is outrageous I've known that family forever"
OF Resident
5:38 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Horrible things happen to wonderful people! Why is it so outrageous to think that nothing intentional could happen to them? Look at what just happen Friday to those beautiful babies!!! I am truly sorry for the pain this loss has caused you and the Rodriguez family
Bill H
5:23 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Prayers and blessings to the family on the loss of their mother and wife. I pray the father pulls through. My heart weeps for the children in the loss of their mother. From reading other posts this seems like a great loss for our community from Erica a devoted helper to our children in the schools. Very sad.
Lauren Traut
5:28 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Hello, commenters.
Due to the sensitive nature of this topic, the comments on this thread have now been set to "Moderate." An editor will review all comments before they appear live on the site.
Thank you,
Lauren Traut
Associate Regional Editor
Dave
9:39 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Good idea, was wondering when you were going to do something like this, no need to post this, just a comment to the moderation team. :)
Joan Bravo
5:32 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My thoughts ad prayers to the Rodriguez children and their family and friends. This is devestating for these children. I would hope that those who continue to post their speculation of what happened would stop and think before posting more of their experienced thoughts. The police and fire department will determine the cause and Lauren will update everyone. Please think of the children!
Ryan Gibbons
5:33 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Thanks you for screening the comments so people are unable to post things that are false and hurtful
Michael M.
5:46 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I don't believe in censorship. That becomes dangerous in itself.
Bob Laird
9:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
censorship is definitly bad, unless it hurts innocent kids. we need and want unbiased news, but in some cases it can go too far. let the media ( I respect the patch for its judgement) decide. there is a point you shouldn't cross. This happened at the end of my block, darn right I want to know what happened, but I will wait until the village releases a statement.
Lauren Traut
9:21 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Thank you, Bob!
Michael M.
9:34 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Bad speech needs to be protected, because bad speech is subjective. How would the Patch feel if the City of OF decided that they could not report on the fire because it would hurt the kids? Would that censorship be OK?
Michael M.
9:34 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
All speech must be protected or we will lose all speech.
Dave
9:44 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
censorship is bad when its facts being posted. I believe in freedom of press, but at the same time, when it involves unsupported comments, slander, inappropriate comments, etc.; those things need to be moderated to help keep innocent people from being hurt at the same time avoiding any flame war of extreme opinions. I can back up my comments which are based on facts on how the investigations go and procedures.
Some people need to understand the morals behind the story _To_Kill_a_Mockingbird_.
Michael M.
9:52 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. What would happen f you posted something true, but they censored you because they thought it might hurt someones feeling? How would you feel? Would it be OK? What if the govt said you can't read the book 'To Kill A Mockingbird' because it may be too violent for someone?
Lauren Traut
9:57 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Michael M.,
Moderation helps Patch editors ensure that commenters are abiding by our Terms of Use (which, by the way, prohibit posting false information or accusations). In this particular case, I chose to set the comments to moderation because many people were and continue to speculate on the situation. Out of sensitivity for the family, and to keep this a constructive dialogue, I thought it important to monitor these comments closely before they went live.
At its heart, Patch is a place for people to glean news and information about their community. If comments on this story went un-moderated, there would seemingly be plenty of misinformation out there—and we certainly don't wish that on our readers.
Thanks for your time.
Lauren Traut,
Associate Regional Editor
Stones
5:46 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
About time Lauren, I can't believe the Patch let unsubstantiated rumors to be post like that.
Not only are the family members distraught, their friends, including my daughter are grief stricken. As are many others. No need to post, just letting you know my thoughts.
Lauren Traut
5:49 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Stones, I've been working to moderate the comments live all day. In fact, I've spent much of my afternoon keeping an eye on this thread and that on the escaped bank robbers story, trying to mediate.
I appreciate your input, and I am just as concerned as you are about unsubstantiated rumors circulating.
Thanks,
Lauren Traut
Associate Regional Editor
Mike F.
6:24 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
You can't say it's been a slow news day.
Laura Mondschean
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I am devastated by this news Erica was a wonderful person I am heart broken by this. My son is friends with their youngest daughter and we are saying prayers for them. Please let us know if we can help the family! God Bless them
Mary Jager
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
God give this family the strength to get through this nightmare! Our prayers are with you Sylvia, Arod and sweat little Gloria!
The Jager Family
NANCY GRACE
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Smells fishy.
OF Resident
8:04 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Agree!!!!!!
Graham
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Thoughts and prayers tonight for Erica and those poor children.
aubrey hubbard
7:47 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
cheryl and my prayer go out to martin and his family we hope he recovers his family realy needs him
hc girl
7:49 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My prayers and love gose out the family . . I know them personally and Erica was a loving beautiful women . . And the kids are great kids . . I feel like this is a dream . . My thoughts and prayers to those kids and husband.
Graham
9:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
7-8 police cars still on the scene as I drove by. Doesn't seem like a normal fire investigation. I wonder what is going on over there?
Dave
9:52 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Graham, this is not a normal fire investigation. It also involves a life being lost. Remember they need to basically recreate the scene to find out if there is some sort of foul play or not. Without witnesses other than the 2 in the house, there is no way of really doing that without going through everything with a fine toothed comb.
the PD and FD investigators do their job as they should be, unbiased. They require a team because everyone does their own bit in the investigation, maybe they go over sector by sector, maybe someone is doing one analysis while another is doing another type of analysis.
If it was my house and my girlfriend died, I want them spending all the time they needed to know exactly what happened. Also when you see multiple cars there, its not just the investigators, there is also officers there to secure the scene to keep nosy people out and disturbing the evidence.
Crime scene tape is nothing, I've seen people walk into completely dangerous construction sites where there is red caution tape there and nearly get themselves severely injured because they just walked through the space through the tape. Those perimeter type of officers are there not just for evidence preservation, but also the protection of people on both sides of the tape.
Sweiss
9:59 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My thoughts and prayers go out to the A Rod and his family. I hope God gives his father the strength to pull through this. It is hard enough to lose one parent, hope his father will make it. A Rod has been friends with my son since elementary school and middle school and now they are in high school together. If there is anything we can do for the family please let us know.
Dave
10:28 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I challenge you who are all on the "conspiracy theory" type of agenda without the concrete evidence of foul play, to at least spend the same amount of time thinking this.
There are now 3 children, no mother, no home, no nothing as it was probably all lost due to fire/flame or smoke hazards, and its Christmas. One of them being 6. Remember when you were 6. Christmas is supposed to be a time of joy and happiness. Of giving for us older members of society and for the presents when we were younger. The teens may cope better with having less expectations as a young kid who sat on Santa's lap in the mall, but at the same time all their memories they developed.
Being the holiday season and losing a family member, home, and your possessions, and people making accusations about your father.
Ok you have your right to your own opinions, but don't just concentrate on them. I am unbiased in this incident and willing to look at the full picture. That is my analytical mind to look at it. At the same time my compassionate side also wonders about the kids and how they are taking it. Wait for the prognosis of the investigation, stop jumping to conclusions. Remember all victims (not just the one who lost their life).
Take that as a challenge and how do you think you could help the kids.
Deb Pahl Stearns
10:28 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I agree and thank the Patch for the actions they are taking. This is a news site, is it not? Is there anything we really need to know besides the fact that a lovely woman lost her life and three children lost their mother? As we have sadly learned this past weekend with the tragedy in CT reporting inaccurate information is only detrimental. We need to be mindful that there are children that are close to this family from the community that may be reading this.
OF Resident
11:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I couldn't agree more Deb. The insensitivity of people posting unknown facts is just wrong. We should be praying for this family and thinking of the children and the husband and his recovery.
Randal
10:28 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
10 o clock news said its a foul play investigation.
Tracy Roth
11:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
My heart and prayers go out to Sylvia, Andrew and Gloria. Their mother Erica was wonderful, vivacious and full of life. She brightened every room she walked in to and most certainly left everyone in it laughing. I am grateful to have known her in the brief time she was here with us. Rest in peace beautiful girl.
OF Resident
11:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
OF Resident
I am also disgusted with the rumors or the speculations on this horrific tragedy that this family has endured. These children have just lost their mother, and now waiting on the recovery of their father. The people making these speculations are you really that insensitive to post it on here!! Let the police do their job, and try praying for this family for the days ahead of them. May God comfort this family and wrap his loving arms around them during this difficult time!!
nicole dove
11:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Shame on those of you posting negative, disrespectful things at a time like this! Put your "theories" aside, and take a moment to absorb the fact that 3 children lost their mother, their father is hospitalized, and their home is destroyed. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Unfortunately in this country, you have the right to free speech so ignorance can run rampant. However, I don't support your right to be a disrespectful jerk. God bless those poor kids and their grieving family.
kim barry
11:18 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
I am so disappointed to read some of these comments and cannot believe that before you submit your postings you do not think or care about what the surviving children have just endured and the impact that this is having on the rest of the family and friends. My son is a very close friend of the family also attends OF Highschool and has been reading this stuff through out the day and disgusted that adults speak like this without having accurate information. Folks we should be thinking about the children and allow them to grieve for their loss without having to accidentally reading some the above comments. These children do not deserve this so please sensitive to their feelings and needs.
Lauren Traut
11:21 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
Alright, folks. We're shutting down the comment thread for the night. It will reopen tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.
Thanks for your contributions.
Lauren Traut,
Associate Regional Editor
Michael M.
11:29 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Any update? I wanted to confirm what I heard from an OF police officer.
Lauren Traut
11:44 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Nope, nothing yet, Michael. Autopsy results will be available this afternoon, and we're checking in with police for any additional details.
As soon as more information becomes available, we'll provide it.
Thank you.
Lauren
Lauren Traut
11:47 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Also, unless what you've heard from police came from Police Chief Greg Anderson, that information is considered unofficial.
Michael M.
11:53 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
I know it is unofficial, I heard it from an officer. That is why I didn't post what I heard.
Lauren Traut
11:57 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Thanks, Michael. I appreciate your discretion.
Lauren Traut,
Associate Regional Editor
Laura Mondschean
11:52 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Has anybody heard any new news. How can we help these children please let md know if there is anything I can do. I am so deeply saddened by this Erica was a wonderful person my prayers are with this family.
Lauren Traut
11:56 am on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
We have heard about a fund set up in the kids' names. We're confirming, and then we'll provide the details.
Thank you.
Lauren Traut,
Associate Regional Editor
LISA HINES
1:14 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
The Marley Project would like to be of some help also. We have food items that the generous residents of Oak Forest have donated to our cause of helping those in need. Perhaps there would be a place for us to bring the contributions, and then they could be forwarded to those caring for the family.
Janet Smith
1:14 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Prayers to the children,family members, & friends... May God give you all strength during this sad time
Diane T
1:28 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Have you ever played "telephone" when you were a kid where someone starts out by whispering a sentence in someone's ear and that person, in turn, repeats it to the next person's ear, and so on and so on. In the end, after being repeated several times from one to another, the original sentence has oftened changed dramatically. Have you seen the 2000 movie "Gossip"; a real lesson on how damaging and out of control rumors can get. I know we are all worried about our families safety and are eager to get the facts concerning the circumstances surrounding the incident on Central Ave. It is especially more difficult on us as we are still reminded daily of the horrific news regarding Sandy Hook Elementary School. We all want to know what happened here and, some feel the need to share what "unofficial" info they have in order alert their neighbors and Oak Forest residents. Not knowing is very unsettling; but reading these various scenerios is down right scary, even if you meant well. So, I plead with you, now that you don't have an opportunity to share all of your thoughts here on this site, please don't play "telephone" out on the streets. Know that no info is still better than misinfo. During these difficult times, as hard as it is, can we try to reflect on the meaning of Christmas; why He was born, His sacrifice, and the promise He made to us. I pray we return His gift by demonstrating behavior that would be pleasing to Him.
Dave
2:23 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
This was my exact argument on another incident a while ago. The telephone game can also hurt any type of due process in the court because of the contamination of a jury. I think the movie "Gossip" is a GREAT movie and should be watched by adults. Very good concepts discussed in it. The rumors not only hurt the victims and the families, but also the whole criminal and civil investigations, because now they have to worry about what they hear from a "new" witness might be some fabrication of a twisted telephone game type of story from 10 different people.
Laura Mondschean
3:08 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
A note from Mr. Beringer (Principal at Foster Elementary): At Foster and the other Forest Ridge School District 142 schools, staff members are coming together to offer support for the Rodriguez family by conducting a voluntary gift card drive. Staff members are volunteering to bring in $10 gift cards for Target, Kohl's, Jewel, Food 4 Less, Macy's and other local merchants that can help feed and clothe the family. Dr. Longo, Dr. Orzel and I will be bringing these donations to the family on Friday.
If you would like to volunteer your support to the family, we will also take any donations you wish to make to the family as well. You can drop them off at Foster by the end of the day Thursday.
Most importantly, please keep the family in your thoughts and prayers.
Jill
5:38 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
Now there is news that there has been some foul play involved (Source: Oak Forest Patch). What I find interesting are two of the first few comments from Deb and Graham earlier in this list of postings. Deb mentions..."Was so praying this wasn't going to happen" and Grahan - "I suspected this was going to happen". What does that even mean? Sounds like you suspected something.
XX DS XX
5:38 pm on Wednesday, December 19, 2012
No matter what the out come is their are 3 kids with out a Mother and possibly a Father if this case turns out to be foul play. 3 parent-less kids who have to live with the fact that either a crime of passion took place or that an unknown assailant might have been a 3rd party to this horrific indecent. No matter how it's chalked up these kids lost everything in 1 hour. Instead of feeding your lust too know the details try occupying that time with figuring out a way to help these kids through this. My Son is good friends with the daughter and devastated for her and the incident. It will all come to light sooner or later but the community should rally around and figure out a way to lessen the blow/impact of this tragedy on these innocent loving children. May God be with them at this horrific time.
Jo
12:59 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012
I agree 100% with this last person jeez people I am a very close friend of the family and I am devasted wait until the facts are clear and let the police do their jobs. We can't solve the crime but we as a community can help the children lets stick to what we know and leave the crime solving to the professionals. If you need gossip that bad go buy an enquirer magazine. This is about people lives we are dealing with right here in our town what if it was your family??
Rita Ramos
10:14 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012
My heart goes out to this family!!! My son played basketball at Faith and plays football at ofhs with Arod and he is a great kid. This is a tragic situation and I hope they have strong family ties to help them through this difficult time.
Joe
9:07 am on Friday, December 21, 2012
Who is "Deb pahl Steam" & "Graham" you ppl seen this coming WHAT! You know nothing these were nice ppl and victims....i see where your going with this you should stop right there Perry Mason keep your unfounded speculations to your self its not wanted here!!
OF Resident
2:17 am on Saturday, December 22, 2012
Joe, for the children, I pray to god that this isn't a case of domestic violence!!! But, unless you live with someone, you have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. Just because someone is nice outside the home, and can put on a smile, doesn't mean that things are the same behind closed doors. Do you honestly think they (they meaning anyone suffering from domestic violence) goes around town and talks about it. No, it is a horrible, shameful, act that goes on right under everyone's noses, everyday, in every town. For the children's sake, maybe those type of comments should have not been posted, but don't assume that those people didn't know what was going on. Maybe your the one who really didn't know what was going on behind their closed door.
Chap
4:30 pm on Friday, December 21, 2012
Before anyone leaves a comment, you need to consider the family. There are children involved here. We are called to show love on people. None of us are super-sleuths. We are a community and need to come together to help this family. Use not only discretion, but compassion. Are we that de/un-sensitized? Tragedy is not something to cast our opinion on. Let the OFPD do their job. If you want to do some good; donate clothing and toys and by all means;pray for this family.
Patty
2:17 am on Saturday, December 22, 2012
I have read this entire thread because I too am a mother of a dauther who is close friends to the eldest daughter....this tradedy has affected my family...my daughter cries herself to sleep at night....there is more to this story...stop speculating and talking about suff that you do not know is fact....let the criminal investigaton do their jobs before you judge.
Jill
12:18 pm on Thursday, December 27, 2012
Well still, no one mentioned anything about why 2 people here "saw this coming".