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Cellphone Ban on All Drivers?

The National Transportation Safety Board wants a ban on all cellphone use while driving. Illinois already bans drivers from talking in construction zones and all texting. What are your thoughts?

 

People are buzzing about the National Transportation Safety Board's recommendation to ban all cellphone use while driving, even hands-free devices. 

At the heart of the debate is a 2010 chain-reaction accident in Missouri that killed a 19-year-old driver who was texting when he rammed his pickup into the back of a semi. Two school buses filled with band students on their way to Six Flags were involved in the crash. In addition to the driver who caused the crash, a 15-year-old girl died and 38 people were hurt. We've had our own examples of cellphone-related accidents here, such as the teen, high on freon, who hit and killed a pedestrian in Tinley Park in 2009 while texting and driving with his knees

Not surprisingly, heavy-hitters in the wireless industry are against such a ban. Others say a ban would be unenforceable: how would a police officer know if a driver is speaking on a hands-free device or simply singing along with Margaritaville?

Some argue a ban on cellphone use is too far-reaching because our phones have become integral to our daily lives. This argument suggests regulations on technological advances should be created before the technology itself, which doesn't seem logical. Besides, drivers, for the most part, understand why laws and punishments for driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol have sharpened along with our understanding of the connection between intoxication and accidents, so drivers will accept cellphone laws with a little time. In addition, drivers and passengers have adjusted just fine to wearing seat belts and putting their children in car seats even though the practices were not made mandatory nationwide until nearly 100 years after the automobile was introduced to Americans. And though we might grumble, we'll all adjust just fine to the new Illinois law requiring all adult backseat passengers to wear seat belts, too. 

Cellphones Worse Than French Fries

The simple fact is that cellphones cause more problems for drivers than other distractions, like the radio, mascara or french fries.

Sheriff Ric Bradshaw of Palm Beach County, FL, tells the Huffington Post that texting is the least dangerous of all distracted activities, but the science disagrees. Various studies have found that texting while driving causes impairment similar to driving drunk, and a study by Car and Driver found that texting while driving slowed response times considerably more than reactions of those same drivers legally drunk. The cellphones used were "text friendly" phones familiar to the drivers in the study, but they still drove better legally drunk than they did while texting.

Texting is already illegal while driving in Illinois. But what about talking? How hazardous can talking possibly be? After all, usually when there is more than one person in a car, the driver is going to talk. Sure, but in-car conversations don't carry the same level of distraction as phone calls, even with hands-free devices.

More concentration is required to carry on a conversation without visual cues; plus, cellphone calls come with additional background noise. In-car conversations are more flexible than phone calls; passengers automatically respond to changes in conditions, like if traffic becomes heavy, they've entered an unfamiliar area, or if there are sirens. Studies show that the acts of planning to speak and speaking are four times more distracting than listening, which is why conversing is much more taxing on a driver than singing along with the radio. (I don't know about you, but my in-car concerts are seldom planned).

With this in mind, graduated licensing laws that restrict cellphone use by age or years of driving experience seem rather pointless: no driver at any level of experience is immune to distractions. (In Illinois, drivers under 19 are not allowed to talk on the phone while driving).  

A Question of Rights?

When I first got my driver's license, my grandfather asked me if I knew how much a car weighed. I didn't.

"This Oldsmobile weighs 3,600 pounds," he told me. "Operating a machine this size is a huge responsibility. The moment it starts being fun is the moment you should stop driving." 

My father had probably said something similar during our hours of driving practice that I ignored, but hearing it from Grandpa hit home. Because of him, when I'm on the road, every car is a loaded weapon potentially aimed at me.

The issue is often framed in the context of rights: "Why does the government think they can tell me what I can or can't do while I'm driving my car?"

This attitude needs adjusting because driving is not a right; it's a privilege. We share the road with countless other people. Driving while distracted, then, is most certainly not a right, no matter how good we think we are at it.

  • If a ban on all cellphone use while driving goes into effect, will you change your phone habits?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • No, I will continue to make and receive calls.
        34 (23%)
    • Yes. It might be inconvenient, but I will follow the law.
        39 (26%)
    • I already refrain from using my phone while driving.
        74 (50%)
    Total votes: 147
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: NTSB cellphone ban, Ntsb, Texting And Driving, and talking and driving
What do you think? Tell us in the comments.

babyboomer

8:00 am on Monday, January 2, 2012

I see people driving with children in their cars, talking or texting, drinking coffee, all while turning the corner and one hand on the wheel. What are they thinking?

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Richard

1:31 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I agree completely, I notice this a lot, too. See my comment below... You could have added "smoking." Once I saw a young woman enter Starbucks and buy coffee all the while talking on her cell phone. When she got back to her car, she lit a cigarette. Now, how many hands does it take to hold a cigarette, a coffee, and a phone--and drive!!

Russ

10:13 am on Monday, January 2, 2012

I think hands free is ok.

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Jim Vondracek

10:39 am on Monday, January 2, 2012

I think so, too, Russ. Texting is unbelievably dangerous and am glad its banned - I just wish more folks followed that law.

Law Enforcement Student

10:22 am on Monday, January 2, 2012

I was told by a police officer that if this law is passed It would make using smart Phones as a GPS and Music Player Illegal as well. Does any one know if that is true?

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Jim Vondracek

10:38 am on Monday, January 2, 2012

that would be unfortunate, in my opinion

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Lauren Traut

10:40 am on Monday, January 2, 2012

Hope not, on the music player front. I'd be out of luck!

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Denise Du Vernay

1:22 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

Technophile,
I haven't found anything regarding GPS and music player use. The information I've seen says the recommendation is to "outlaw non-emergency phone calls and texting by operators of every vehicle on the road" (CNN) and would not affect what passengers are allowed to do. Of course, if adopted, each state would write and enforce the law on their own, so there's no telling what the specific law would be in Illinois. My recommendation either way is to get the address entered in your GPS before driving, and put your device on talking mode.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-13/us/us_ntsb-cell-phone-ban_1_smart-phones-texting-pickup-truck-driver?_s=PM:US

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Law Enforcement Student

9:28 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012

Lauren,
That does not apply to ipod ,mp3 players.
Denise,
The Officer I talked to was more or less talking about the Use of Officer Discretion. His example was if he Pulled someone over for speeding and later noticed a cell phone in a holder on the dash he could "Question the use" . He went on to say if you could prove you were not texting or or calling he would let it go but other officers might not. and I Agree with you comment about GPS Input.

Lisa Gries

12:31 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

If you can't use the hands free for cell phone, why allow anyone to speak, listen news/radio, move, eat or drink in a vehicle. I absolutely agree that texting while driving is as rediculous to do as to putting makeup on while driving.

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Mary Kay Ballo

12:39 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I don't know how they could possibly enforce such a law since all the police officers are either on the phone or have their noses buried in their laptops.

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Paul Dailing

12:55 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I put this comment on the Mokena Patch Facebook page, but I thought I would share it here too. I once interviewed a police officer about distracted driving. He told me about this woman who, after a crash, swore up and down she had been paying attention. The whole time she was talking, she didn't realize she had a giant smear of lipstick going from her mouth to her ear. She had very obviously been putting on her lipstick, hit the car and BAM! Instant Joker.

I guess that's the problem with any rule that might come from the NTSB recommendation. We have all these horror stories about texting and distracted driving, but a lot of this stuff is already illegal. Illinois bans texting at all ages and talking on the phone if you're under 19. If people aren't following one law, what would a second one saying the same thing do?

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Denise Du Vernay

6:12 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I've been pondering this issue and I agree that making something law doesn't prevent people from doing it, but fear of losing one's license, having really high insurance rates, or having to go to traffic school might. I'm remembering a friend of mine who got two speeding tickets within a half a year; he began using his cruise control constantly because he couldn't afford another one.

In addition, there are benefits to having it illegal, especially for the other party (or parties) involved in a car accident. If one driver is shown to be distracted and therefore at fault for an accident, the driver not distracted wouldn't have to worry about his/her insurance rates. I like that.

Richard

1:28 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I see a lot of people talking on their phones while driving. More of them seem to be women. I for one get very nervous and worry about being rear-ended when I notice a driver behind me talking on her phone and she is stopping very close behind me. Some of these big SUVs weigh 3 tons--6000 pounds, compared to the writer's grandfather's Oldsmobile at 3600 pounds--and should not be controlled with one hand. Along with prohibiting cell-phone use, I'd like to take away these drivers' power steering, so that they'd have to use both hands to control their vehicles!

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Denise Du Vernay

6:01 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

Really? Because the last few times I've almost been hit or otherwise fearful on the road, it's been a man on his phone. ;)

Kerry Gingrich

2:38 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

No talking, no texting, no eating. Any activity that makes one think and engage too much is a danger. Way too many people have problems driving responsibly and intelligently as it is.

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Russ

4:26 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

We have the on strar phone system.We push a button and it is all voice commands after that.It is like talking to a passenger in the car. There is no dialing or fumbling for numbers.Texting is really wrong.I can't tell you how many times I have seen near accidents or crazy driving to find out the driver of that car was texting.Also near misses of cars(with drivers texting) almost hitting me as I was riding my bicycle

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Homewood Jim

4:51 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

Our governments are great at passing laws of all kinds, but damn poor at enforcing them. They can't keep 12 million illegals from sneaking into the country, and they think they can keep maybe 200 million from talking on cell phones? When the government feels a need to protect us from ourselves, we have a problem. And the problem is what our society has become, I' afraid.

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Denise Du Vernay

5:59 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

In fairness, Homewood Jim, immigration has nothing to do with this discussion; let's keep it on road safety, please. Now, at this point, this is a recommendation by the NTSB, whose job is to determine "probable cause of transportation accidents, promoting transportation safety, and assisting victims of transportation accidents and their families." So, instead of thinking about this issue as yet another unenforceable law or the government trying to "protect us from ourselves," why not think of it as an analysis of accidents and their causes, and a practical suggestion on how to improve road safety?

When a business experiences accidents and injuries, it's in everyone's best interest to look into the causes and add safety equipment, change policy, or make rules to prevent future accidents. That's why every factory job I had forbade drinking alcohol at lunch and why I was required to wear slip-proof shoes working in a restaurant. In a way, we're all working on the road and it should be as safe as possible. Not trying to improve safety would be irresponsible.

The NTSB says the annual cost of distraction-related crashes runs well into the tens of billions. Hmm, maybe our car insurance rates will go down if this becomes law!

Mary

7:09 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I definitely agree. I was hit in my car by a woman in a SUV who was talking on the phone and as she was turning the corner ran right into my car. Not only was she talking on the phone, I had to interrupt her to ask if she was hurt. My car which I had for over 8 years without any mechanical problems was totaled. I definitely agree cell phone use is not a good idea while driving for many people.

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dave

10:37 pm on Monday, January 2, 2012

I agree texting is dangerous. A person can't watch the road and text. Your eyes are on one or the other. Talking on a cell phone should be no more distracting than talking to a passenger. If you can't talk and drive you shouldn't have a license. And as long as I am paying to use the road by paying taxes it is not a privilege. No one pays for a privilege.

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Denise Du Vernay

2:01 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012

Talking on a cellphone *should be* no more distracting than talking to a passenger; unfortunately, that is not the case.

I do disagree that paying taxes grants someone permission to drive. Driving is a privilege; tax money used on roads is to maintain infrastructure in order to move people and goods around. Everyone benefits by the infrastructure, which is why people who cannot or choose not to drive don't get to claim a "no car" deduction on their taxes. Privileges (and rights) are taken away from people who abuse them frequently, whether it's voting (a right) for committing a felony, attending school (a right or a privilege, depending on your perspective) for breaking rules egregious enough to be expelled, or losing the freedom to work in one's desired field (a right) because of breaking applicable laws (lawyers are disbarred, etc). Driving impaired is no different: people who show they are not capable of driving responsibly should not be allowed to drive, no matter how much they pay in taxes.

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Cezar Jenkins

2:14 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012

Actually, you have a right to use the road. What you don't have, is a right to drive on the road. Courts have upheld the right to travel, but not to drive. That is a privilege. That's why you don't need a license to walk, bike, skateboard, whatever down the road.

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Denise Du Vernay

2:28 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012

Cezar,
A-ha! Thanks for the clarification. I guess I was just thinking in terms of freeways, but of course, you are right.
-denise

lala

3:16 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012

It should be banned for ALL drivers. If you have an emergency and must use a phone, pull safely off the road and use it. We managed to drive without them years ago. The police need to set a better example.

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Julia

4:17 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012

I saw my life flash before my eyes when a semi blew the light on 127th and Cicero. I could see him talking on his cell phone! Unbelievable....I'm sorry but NOTHING is that important as to hurt or even possibly kill someone.

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Dan Lambert

4:44 pm on Tuesday, January 3, 2012

That intersection is always so busy and dangerous enough without a cell phone wielding semi driver.

Patricia Lowczyk

1:34 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Talking on a cell phone is no more dangerous than talking to a passenger in the car. My husband almost rear-ended a car this weekend, because he glanced into the backseat to talk to someone. So, next will they make a law that a driver can't talk to passengers? lt's ridiculous! I was rear-ended by someone changing a CD. I saw a semi driver reading a newspaper, driving down 159th Street. People are crazy, but targeting cell phones isn't going to stop distracted driving.

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Denise Du Vernay

3:51 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012

First off, Patricia, I don't know anyone who would advocate driving while reading a newspaper. I personally would support a "distracted driving" moving violation that would include such things as reading the paper, using a cell phone, applying makeup, and even accidents caused by distracted activities like changing CDs. (Am I the only person who waits for a stoplight to change CDs or put on lip gloss?) If I saw a semi driver reading the paper while driving, I'd get the license and call the cops. (I'd pull over first, of course). That's blatant disrespect of human life and a big eff you to everyone else on the road.

However, as I researched and reported in this article, the science does not back up the theory that talking on the phone is the same as talking to a passenger. Your anecdote about your husband DOES illustrate, however, that talking requires four times as much concentration as listening: He put so much effort into talking that he forgot he was driving a car. So, as for people like your husband who don't realize that they shouldn't make eye contact with others while they're driving a car . . . maybe they should let someone else drive.

Julia

1:37 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Patricia, I take it you are one of those people who talk are their cell phone constantly...it is an addiction...put down the phone already! answering a cell phone or text is so much more distracting than talking to someone in your car with you..come on get real!

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Russ

4:42 pm on Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Patricia, you and people like you are what we have been talking about.I have seen an oncoming car come into my lane on a 2 way street ,get back in his lane just before collision all the time cradling his phone in his ear and not seeming to notice the great peril that his talking on the phone put us both in.So if you were to ask him ,he would probably think talking on the phone and driving is just fine cause he doesn't realize when he is causing a problem.

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